..... there's not a food scientist on earth that would stand a chance on  this subject, with either one of these guys.   Shoot, no food scientist would stand a chance with me either.... it just seems funny how so many non-scientists can completely make minced meat out of every single argument these modern day so-called scientist's can muster... that's why they will never engage in such discussions... closed minds... a sure sign that you're not nearly as smart as you think you are.  High IQ can only off-set so much dumb fucked-ness, is how I see it.   I mean, if you had to pick, would you rather have the intellect to solve a Rubik's Cube in 2 minutes, or grasp and understand the true nature of the universe and the reality of where we live?

Our "smart" guys, aren't so smart.... especially on the subjects they think they're so smart in.    No matter how "intelligently" you talk about transforming Mar's atmosphere, to support human life, you're going to come off as an ignorant mid-wit douche-bag to even the casual observer who's taken a little time to look at the science.   People like Elon know it's all bull crap, they know they're putting on a show for the dumbed down masses.... but our "scientists" on the other hand,  they are nothing but bonafide dupes and  dead serious suckers, who can't think for themselves.   Sure they can get a lot of the little things correct, but so what if they can't get the biggest thing right, the thing that has such tremendous down-stream ripples throughout so many subjects.

With the weight of the empirical scientific evidence being literally something like 3,000 to 0, it becomes a concern when this is not recognized as something of significance..... Well over 3,000 solid proofs to literally and factually, zero proofs, should set off a little alarm in people's minds.  This lack of an internal alarm in the mind's of the "smartest" among us, well, it's rather alarming.   By golly.   I just want to know what's wrong with these son's of bitches, that's all, and by "son's of bitches"  I of course mean, mother fucker's, lest I be accused of being too sweet here.   Needle's ain't sweet, you see? 

Poke on.